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HBSA Christmas Wappenschaw and Lunch – SUN 09 DEC 2018

posted by Tony Cattermole   [ updated ]

A field of 19 competitors assembled at 200 yards on a blustery and rather grey, drizzly day for the traditional Christmas 'fun' shoot and lunch.

The competition was a grouping exercise, with ten shots prone (rests and slings allowed in all classes) using standard NRA 200 yard round bull faces.  The results may be viewed here >>>>

Post shoot feed back indicated that a separate class for non - military iron sighted rifles would be popular. Also, as the marking for this style of competition is much less onerous than a normal '2ss and 10 to count' shoot, in future, .22 rimfire rifles could be included as well. To my amazement, several competitors asked for targets with smaller black aiming marks – so next year's Wappenschaw competition will be on Standard NRA RB or NRA /HBSA Historic faces with Tin Hats too - shooter's choice !

Our usual 'Steak and Kidney Pie' lunch was held in the pleasant surroundings of the LMRA members' dining room as the ATSC was unavailable.

My thanks go to David Carroll who RCO'd the competition and to all those who assisted on the firing point and also to those who helped me in the butts.

Particular mention must be made of Tony Cattermole, who ran the stats and had made up an excellent score board . He gave us a most interesting short talk after lunch on the process of cordite manufacture at the Kynoch works using sheep's wool and how soap became one of the by-products. He also explained the mystery of how and why cordite strands were loaded into bottle shaped cartridge cases before they were necked.

Mike Townsend

Offensive Weapons Bill - December update

posted 10 Dec 2018, 11:27 by Tony Cattermole   [ updated 10 Dec 2018, 11:27 ]

As members may be aware this is now in the Lords. The high power rifle ban has been withdrawn but it remains to be seen what comes from the Peers before it goes back to the Commons, especially in relation to Miniature Rifle Clubs (Sect 11(4).

Needless to say we are tracking this and with input/briefing as required, in close co-operation with BSSC. We will keep you informed as far as we are able.

Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and Happy Healthy and Happy New Year

Phil Godliman

posted 23 Nov 2018, 03:47 by Tony Cattermole   [ updated 25 Nov 2018, 06:15 ]

My father Phil Godliman recently passed away. I believe was a member of HBSA.

I don't know if anyone at HBSA who knew Phil is still a member or even still alive (Dad was 92) but just in case could you let members know?

We are having a service at Slough Crematorium on 12th December at 2pm.

Mike Godliman

Members will be sad to learn of the recent passing of Phil Godliman. He was 92 and had been active well into his 80’s.

Phil was a stalwart of HBSA and a founder member.

There will be a service at Slough Crematorium on 12th December at 14.00. By the way his son writes it seems that members wishing to attend will be welcome

Derek Stimpson

Robert Edminson

posted 23 Nov 2018, 02:38 by Tony Cattermole   [ updated 23 Nov 2018, 02:38 ]

We have received the sad news that Robert Edminson passes away. He had been much involved in the Tameside club and would have been known to many members. 

Derek Stimpson

European Firearms Passes after 29th March 2019

posted 20 Nov 2018, 07:42 by Tony Cattermole   [ updated 20 Nov 2018, 07:42 ]

Members should be aware of the situation regarding EFPs post 29th March 2019.

Of course there will be other issues but if you have and use an EFP please look at the attached link:

Derek Stimpson


Legislative update October & November 2018

posted 19 Nov 2018, 15:11 by Tony Cattermole

Attached is David Penn's legislative update.

HBSA Wappenschaw Competition & Christmas Lunch – at Bisley Sunday 9th December 2018

posted 18 Nov 2018, 13:29 by Tony Cattermole   [ updated 18 Nov 2018, 13:29 ]

HBSA Wappenschaw Competition & Christmas Lunch – at Bisley
Sunday 9th December 2018

If you haven't already entered for our Christmas Wappenschaw 'fun' shoot and lunch, please do so as soon as possible.

Full details are on the website under 'Competitions – Wappenschaw'.  All entries are 'online' and the closing date for both shoot and lunch will be 4th December.

I hope to see lots of you there  to round off our shooting year.

Mike Townsend
Wappenschaw Organiser/RCO

FAC "Collecting" condition

posted 16 Nov 2018, 12:14 by Tony Cattermole   [ updated 16 Nov 2018, 12:15 ]

Following a recent request I am re-posting and amplifying the following post from 2016.

Members are reminded that if they have a collection of Section 1 firearms (or seek to establish one) then these may be identified on their FAC. You will need to explain your theme or proposed theme to the police.

A typical collecting condition (where collecting is the "good reason") might read:- “The firearms which are identified by an asterisk (*) on this certificate must be possessed, purchased or acquired by the holder of the certificate only for the purpose of its being kept or exhibited as part of a collection and may be fired occasionally (or it may say “not to be fired" if that is your wish)”. Section 7 firearms are automatically treated as a collection and marked on the FAC by an asterisk or hatch mark.

There is reference to collecting in the Guide on Firearms Licensing Law in various places, notably, Chapter 8: Antique Firearms, Chapter 13: Good reason to possess a firearm, and Appendix 3: Conditions for firearm certificates.

It should be noted that “occasionally” is not defined as such, nor is use, and such occasional use for any collectors item may be any form of shooting, including practice, competition, game shooting etc. The consideration to keep in mind is “reasonable”.

Needless to say if you wish to use a particular item from the collection on your FAC more than a few times during the year then it may be preferable not to rely on collecting as your good reason and to record the use, as with your other firearms. The good reason for possession would then be target shooting (or as appropriate). The good reason can always be amended to “collecting" if your shooting reduces or ceases.

If you have questions or concerns please get in touch - we are here to help

Derek Stimpson

An eye-witness account of signing the Armistice in 1918 | Christie's

posted 10 Nov 2018, 13:23 by Tony Cattermole   [ updated 10 Nov 2018, 13:24 ]

Members will be interested to see items coming up at Christies in the link below.

They relate to the signing of the Armistice and come from Captain Marriott who was present at signing.

Armistice Match at Bisley 10th November 2018

posted 10 Nov 2018, 13:09 by Tony Cattermole   [ updated 12 Nov 2018, 02:38 ]

On Saturday 10th November the NRA organised the “Armistice Centenary Commemoration Match” supported by LERA and open to all comers.

There were various competitions and a number of HBSA members took part. The rifles used were mainly SMLEs although one or two other WW1 rifles such as P14s were evident. The finale after the five matches was a “mad minute” shot with SMLEs alongside a Vickers belt fed, water cooled, MG kindly provided by Fultons.    

We congratulate the two HBSA medal winners:-

Bill Ellis                   Match 1 Fixed Bayonet     Bronze
Tony Cattermole     Match 5 Kneeling Snaps   Bronze

See video link for the MG footage which will also be on the NRA website.

Vickers machinegun and SMLEs in Mad Minute at Bisley Armistice Match 10th November 2018

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